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September 3, 2014 Justin Forrest Miles, therapist, hiphop artist, writer

September 10, 2014 Donnalou Stevens, singer, songwriter, musician, former facilitator of Scott Kiloby’s inquiries.

September 17 To be announced

September 24 Vicki Woodyard

October 1 David Newman (Durga Das), kirtan chant artist, sacred singer/songwriter, practioner and educator of Bhakti Yoga, author of The Timebound Traveler  (Non-Duality Press)

October (to be confirmed) Johanne McInnis, Bernie Francis

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#5249 – The Happiness That Needs Nothing, by Colin Drake

Edited by Jerry Katz

I’m always pleased to announce one of Colin Drake‘s new books. I no longer publish Colin’s books. He’s since been discovered, interviewed on Conscious.TV, and excerpts from his works are appearing in various books. Colin now publishes his books himself.

Colin writes in his recent newsletter…

Dear Fellow Explorers, Here are the contents, chapter synopses and a review (by Ramaji, author and teacher) of the new book, ‘The Happiness That Needs Nothing’. Love, Colin


Introduction 3

Prologue – The Happiness That Needs Nothing 17

One – Self-identity – The Key to Spontaneous Living 24

Two – The Joy of Embodiment 31

Three – Detachment or Engagement? 41

Four – Non-attachment and Love 46

Five – Vigilance, Mindfulness and Fun 52

Six – Witnessing, Experience and ‘The Spiritual’ 57

Seven – Unanswerable Questions 65

Eight – Partial Truth and Direct Communication 71

Nine – ‘Gratitude is Heaven Itself’ 75

Ten – Joy Without a Cause 81

Eleven – Desire and The ‘Dark Side’ 86

Twelve – Strong Desires and Addictions 92

Thirteen – Unavoidable Pain Vs Mental Suffering 98

Fourteen – ‘The Kingdom of God’ 104

Fifteen – Loving the Beloved 111

Sixteen – Different Paths Up The Mountain 117

Seventeen – Consciousness, a Definition 126

Eighteen – Balancing Worldly Life & Nurturing The Spirit 132

Nineteen – The Dance of Awakening 140

Twenty – Combating Depression by Repeated Awakening 147

Twenty one – The Agony and Ecstasy of Awakening 155

Twenty two – Nonduality and Christianity 161

Twenty Three – Seeing is Believing 168

Appendix One – Investigation of Experience 174

Appendix Two – Instruments of The Absolute 184

Addendum – Love Loving Itself 189

The Author – A short spiritual biography 200

Glossary 203

Bibliography 205

Chapter Synopses

The Prologue discusses how awakening to the fact that one is Pure Awareness reveals the peace within and the innate joy of existence as an instrument (and expression) of Consciousness. This evokes the happiness that needs no particular set of external circumstances to manifest.

Chapter one attempts to show that when one is identified as (and with) Pure Awareness there are many wonderful outcomes which allow us to live authentically and spontaneously. This is achieved by giving a précis of many chapters of previous books, each of which discusses one of these outcomes.

Chapter two discusses the joy of using the body/mind as an instrument through which Consciousness can participate in, and enjoy, its’ manifestation – the world.

Chapter three continues this theme by discussing whether it is preferable to engage fully with life or to stay detached so that one’s equanimity is not disturbed.

Chapter four was written in answer to a question concerning how one could love whist staying non-attached to life. As such it continues the theme of the previous two chapters.

Chapter five discusses the difference between vigilance and (maintaining) ‘mindfulness’ and attempts to show how, although aiming for the same result, they produce very different lifestyles. As such this chapter is a continuation of the main topic under discussion since the beginning of the book … that of enjoying life.

Chapter six is a dialogue with a reader of my previous books who had just undergone an ‘awakening’ which left him with a series of questions.

Chapter seven is my answer to a series of questions concerning karma and reincarnation – which were unanswerable by direct investigation. Thus any answers given would only be my beliefs (or dogma) and as I don’t operate in this paradigm I could only say that I don’t know.

Chapter eight discusses the fallout from the previous chapter when a supporter of mine became involved in a disagreement with the partner of the questioner concerning (me saying only the) ‘partial truth’. Whereas, if the questioner had contacted me directly we would have been in complete agreement … for there is always more (Truth) to be discovered as what is under investigation is limitless!

Chapter nine considers the paradox that gratitude arises even when one realizes that there is no separation, and thus no ‘other’ to be grateful to.

Chapter ten is my response to John Wren Lewis describing God as ‘Joy Without a Cause’. As The Absolute is often caused ‘The Causeless Cause’ and we are expressions and instruments of That, the realization of which gives great joy, then John’s description is very apt.

Chapter eleven is my response to a reader who said that he had not found much written, in spiritual books, about the nature of desire and was wondering about my ‘take’ on the subject.

Chapter twelve is a continuation of this topic when considering strong (overwhelming) desires and addiction.

Chapter thirteen is a dialogue with a reader of Beyond The Separate Self concerning the difference between unavoidable (mental) pain and unnecessary suffering caused by misidentification.

Chapter fourteen considers how awakening and discovering ‘The Kingdom of God’ (that is within us all) overcomes worrying about the future and also renders needless questions concerning karma and death.

Chapter fifteen is an updated practice based on ‘Love Loving Itself’ (see addendum) in which one engages all five senses simultaneously.

Chapter sixteen is a response to a good friend, who runs a Christian meditation centre, regarding her analogy that we are at different ‘coal faces’ of spirituality such that my pointings are of not much use to those mining her ‘face’ … It is also a general discussion of the ‘negative mystical path’ in the world’s major religions.

Chapter seventeen is an attempt to define the undefinable – Consciousness – to give a definition of consciousness which is a cogent conclusion based on reason and modern science and can be directly experimentally verified by one’s own investigation.

Chapter eighteen was the result of noticing the levels of tiredness and exhaustion among those I know, which are often needlessly self inflicted. This discussion is about achieving a balance between engaging with the world and nurturing the ‘spirit’.

Chapter nineteen is an email exchange with a reader which details her ‘dance’ with awakening, or yo-yo as she puts it. I have include it for it is a fairly typical account, which I think many can relate to and I have added a few comments at the end.

Chapter twenty is an email discussion with a reader who has a tendency to suffer from depression, concerning whether identification with, and as, Pure Awareness – awakening – has the potential to combat this problem.

Chapter twenty one is an email exchange with a newly awakened reader highlighting the joy that can occur on awakening and the efficacy of re-identifying with Awareness.

Chapter twenty two was stimulated by the graduating address given by the principal of a theological college which led me to examining the resonances between Christianity and Nonduality.

Chapter twenty three posits that ‘ direct seeing’, which leads to understanding is of more importance than spiritual experiences, although these may sometimes lead to that. It also contains a very concise and clear way of seeing that ,at the deepest level, one is Awareness.


BOOK REVIEW OF “THE HAPPINESS THAT NEEDS NOTHING” BY RAMAJI JULY, 2014 Colin Drake’s new book “The Happiness That Needs Nothing” is a spiritual self-help manual in the best sense of the word. Nothing is kept mysterious.Colin’s writing is like one of those guides for budding magicians where a famous illusionist reveals the true secrets of his famous tricks. The naked simplicity of the exposition is what takes the breath away. Unlike some who seem to think that the fact of awareness or an experience of awareness being aware of awareness is enough, Colin takes it the full 100 yards and makes an enlightenment touchdown. He does not let up until you, the reader, have had a chance to grasp the essence in a way that is compatible with your particular personal perceptual filters. I especially like Colin’s emphasis on happiness. I’m pretty sure that Ramana Maharshi answered numerous questions with words to the effect “If realizing the Self did not yield the greatest happiness, what would be the point? Happiness is what we human beings yearn for!” His Holiness the Dalai Lama is known for repeatedly affirming the same message. Teachers at a lesser level emphasize other things. It is, perhaps, because they themselves are not actually happy! Colin’s emphasis on happiness arrives at the right time. Enough already with teachers who have a reached a cosmic consciousness or non-dual awakening of some kind where they still kick the dog, sneak out on their wife for sordid affairs and do not practice basic human virtues like kindness or telling the truth. Happy people do happy things. For one thing, they enjoy loving and being loved. Colin does a great job of bringing all of this home to the reader. We are human beings after all. Everything has Buddha Nature, even rocks, but the Buddha Nature of human beings flowers as love, peace, happiness and joy, even the sweet joys of the senses. I am thrilled to see Colin emphasizing this fundamental day to day truth about authentic awakening and the solid realization of the Absolute. Call this attainment what you like, it is important to understand that it fulfills the deepest yearnings of the human heart. That makes Colin’s book a great service to non-dual readers who, perhaps misled by moody enlightened misfits like the late U. G. Krishnamurti, could not understand what all the noise is about. Well, folks, what the noise is about is being truly happy — and Colin points the way with a smile.

If you are interested in more articles, poems, or all formats of books, including in the new book, The Happiness that Needs Nothing – Pointers to That which is Always Here , these may be found at  http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/ColinDrake. If you wish to purchase a book always check www.lulu.com for discounts/sale prices which Lulu is constantly offering.

Also all of my books are now available in Kindle format from www.amazon.com and as Ibooks from the Apple store.

For more information and an enlarged profile visit www.amazon.com/author/colin_drake

And my interview with Conscious TV is viewable athttp://bcove.me/im07untp

To join my email group and receive (free) all new articles and poems as they are posted just email me at colin108@dodo.com.au


#5248 – Gary Falk, Yufo Love, Dhanya, Mary Jean. 27August2014

garyfalk  maryjean dhanyayufolove

photos from top left to bottom right: Gary Falk, Mary Jean, Dhanya Durga Moffitt, Yufo Love

Gary Falk is a nonduality raconteur who posts on Facebook and pursues various nondual teachings. Yufo Love is a proponent of new tantra. Dhanya Durga Moffitt is a student and teacher of Vedanta. Mary Jean is a Nonduality Talk listener living in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, who contributes as an occasional co-host.

Our scheduled guest was James Parker who we couldn’t reach due to technical issues.

Tracks with time cues:

0:00 – 11:07 Clip from The Matrix. Music by Prosad. Introduction of Gary Falk. Gary’s 100 year old mother Mary. Roger Steele. Trying to get James Parker on the Line. Kibitzing. Music: Daydream Believer, trance version.

11:07 – 17:47 Conversation with Gary Falk continues. What is nonduality? Looking for realization. Gary’s mother, what she’s reading. Mahasamadhi.

17:47 – 22:56 What Gary’s reading these days. The urge for what to do next. Calling off the search for realization. Ordering nonduality books. Taking the Fred Davis challenge.

22:56 – 30:04 Stopping for a sandwich on the way to getting enlightened. Fred Davis further discussed. Talking about Dhanya Durga Moffitt.

30:04 – 42:47 Dhanya Durga Moffitt joins us on the line, talks about her involvement with nonduality over the years, some of her milestones. Experiences in “getting” nonduality. The problem of looking for a big experience. The value of the desire for liberation. The mind has to be prepared for liberation. Dhanya’s mother. Something beautiful Papaji told Dhanya.

42:47 – 46:03 Talking about Dhanya.

46:03 – 50:22 Some hopefully humorous prattle. “There’s no outer world.” The desire for liberation as grace. Transition to Yufo Love joining the show.

50:22 – 1:02:29 Yufo Love joins the show. Talking about shamanism. Ufo’s. The word “po” and Osho. Listening back to the show I feel I was giving Yufo a bit of a hard time and not letting him be himself. As a result, things got a little out of hand and I ended up blaming Yufo for behaving badly, and I cut him off the show. I apologize for that because as host of the show I should have blamed myself for the situation, as I could have made Yufo more comfortable instead of treat him as a fall guy. So, Yufo, I’m sorry. Hope you’ll come back on the show. [I'm pleased to report that Yufo has graciously accepted my apology. He's a good guy.]

1:02:29 – 1:12:31 The humor and limitation of George Carlin discussed. Ufology.

1:12:31 – 1:24:23 Mary Jean joins the show. Ufo’s discussed. Jerry’s experience watching Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Gary talks about the movie The Thing. Scary movies discussed, especially from the old days. Mary Jean talks about her experience with scary movies.

1:24:23 – 1:30:33 We talk to Gary’s 100 year old mother. Nonduality version of the tv show Family Feud. Favorite books.

1:30:33 – 1:39:17 Negative comments regarding an interview I did with Gary Falk in 2012 about Candice O’Denver: www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-xCRHExB…WG7i6KhNb8CqQuCrA. Gary talks about not feeling gratitude for his experiences with Candice.

1:39:17 – 1:42:34 Mary Jean talks about feeling grateful for negative experiences in her life. The chemistry between Mary Jean and Gary Falk.

1:42:34 – 1:55:10 A recording of Russell Brand, and comparing him to George Carlin. Comedians. Gary’s life these days. Going to lunch. Chinese food. Spring rolls. Mary Jean and Gary non-duel.

1:55:10 – 2:00:58 Caller Sean invites us to flip our map upside down both literally and, we assume figuratively, as a way to create a new neural pathway. Laws of beauty and harmony. Sean’s call discussed.

2:00:58 – 2:08:44 Mary Jean talks about her work in local theatre in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, and her stage manager kit. Coloring books.

Stephen Shellenberger
mixed media on recycled material
49″ x 33″
The Senvest Collection


Upcoming interview with James Parker, Gary Falk, and Yufo Love

My guest today, Wednesday, August 27, on Nonduality Talk radio will be James Parker http://www.jamesparkermagic.co.uk/.

The show airs live at 12:30pm EST on www.ckdu.ca. Check your local time here.

James calls himself a “philosophical illusionist.” James has been influenced by philosophical teachings, in particular Eastern philosophy such as Zen, Tao and the independent philosopher Jiddu Krishnamurti.

The root of the word Magic is Magi, translated as “Wise Man”, a person who studies sciences, physics, psychology, philosophy, spirituality and all aspects of life in order to have a positive effect on the environment and people around them.

He is also an activist and we’ll talk about his views on global issues such as climate change.

In addition, the show will be extended by 90 minutes and will feature nonduality raconteur Gary Falk and advancer of New Tantra and stuff like that, Yufo Love.

The call-in number is 1-902-494-2487.

#5247 – A Selection of Fine Writers

Edited by Jerry Katz

I took two tea bags, a chai and a ginger and put them in the same mug. Blending like this is fun. Seinfeld did this with cereal. You end up with a lovable mutt, or mug, of tea.

We can do this with true statements. Throw them together and see what comes out. Paradox can rock.

Blow your own mind. It’s time.

Vicki Woodyard

~ ~ ~

Vicki has a new and beautiful book coming out for which I [Jerry ]wrote the foreword. I’ll be publicizing that at the right time, in a few weeks. It’s not like any other nonduality book out there. A unique perspective.


Here is an endorsement I wrote for Cheryl Abram‘s upcoming book, Firing God:

“Cheryl Abram–currently facing debt, foreclosure, a divorce, and the displacement of her children — has written a book as timeless as her childhood in Pecan Grove and as relevant as what’s happening this moment in your own life. At the end of the book, Abram is still facing debt, foreclosure, divorce, and the displacement of her children. Yet something has shifted. How Cheryl Abram writes about that shift is what makes this one of the most important books in the spirituality genre in the last twenty years. It is likely that upon finishing this book you’ll take a deep breath, relieved that you don’t have to improve yourself or become a better person, because now you’ve seen something else, something wholly different, and it’s that seeing that matters.”
–Jerry Katz, Nonduality.com




This coming Wednesday, August 27, on Nonduality Talk radio, I’m interviewing the philosophical illusionist James David Parker http://www.jamesparkermagic.co.uk/.

Listen at 12:30pm EST at www.ckdu.ca



Joy Without a Cause
by Colin Drake

‘Do you have joy without a cause,
Yea faith without a hope?’
From ‘The Ballad of The White Horse’,
Chesterton’s enquiring trope.

The Absolute is ‘The Causeless Cause’,
Of everything in manifestation,
Pure Awareness when in ‘pause’,
Cosmic energy whilst in agitation.

Consciousness, at rest and in motion,
Nondual presence existing in two states,
All appears and subsides in this ocean,
Movement which arises, abides and abates.

If we identify with the changeless,
Pure Awareness, constant conscious essence,
Then life loses its unpleasant strangeness,
Often full of joy and exuberance.

This joy has many facets, such as relief,
When the burdens of the illusory self fall.
The wonder of direct-seeing, without belief,
For self-concern ceases perception to pall.

Peace, for Awareness is always silent and still.
Enjoyment of life as an instrument of This,
Experiencing varied sensations that life fill.
Unfiltered, the world encountered ‘as it is’.

Compassion, for we are of the same essence,
Seeing all are one, no other, many or two.
Fearlessness, for angst is banished hence,
Nothing to hope for, or that we have to do.

~ ~ ~

If you are interested in more articles, poems, or all formats (paperback, .pdf and epub) of books, including in the new book, The Happiness that Needs Nothing – Pointers to That which is Always Here , these may be found at  http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/ColinDrake. If you wish to purchase a book always check www.lulu.com for discounts/sale prices which Lulu is constantly offering.

Also all of my books are now available in Kindle format from www.amazon.com and as Ibooks from the Apple store. For more information and an enlarged profile visit www.amazon.com/author/colin_drake

And my interview with Conscious TV is viewable at http://bcove.me/im07untp

To join my email group and receive (free) all new articles and poems as they are posted just email me at colin108@dodo.com.au





This is a terrible message for the person.

There is Nothing in the topic of Nonduality for the person.

There is not a someone who will get
more happy, more free, more intelligent.

This is NOT what the person wants to hear.

It is a bleak landscape with no control.

An emptiness which is disconcerting.

When through Grace the contraction of the
energetic construct of a felt identity falls away,
the center of existence of this person is gone.

The me around which the entire life has been operating
my story,  my character,  my past,  my blah blah
drops away.

Much like they say in all the texts:
it is the death of the personal self.

At the same time:
You are already That which is aware and sees
the story of the person happening.
Sees everything always already happening.

And there is Nothing that needs to be done
to come closer to what you already are.

It is the noticing of presence of awareness.
And noticing that this is always already in place.
Always has been.

The simplicity of This is something from which
the mind and self turn away.
Can’t be this.
Can’t be this simple.

And they go on
hand in hand
looking for things to do,
how to come closer
to what is.

Maybe just notice this tendency of the mind?
Notice this happening in what we are?

Awareness sees it All.




#5246 – Interview with Acharya Rita M. Gross

Edited by Jerry Katz

Acharya Rita M. Gross is author of Religious Diversity, What’s the Problem? Buddhist Advice for Flourishing with Religious Diversity. Its themes are the subjects of this interview.

Acharya Rita is  Professor Emerita of Comparative Studies of Religion at the University of Wisconsin Eau Claire and a Senior Dharma Teacher in the Nyingma Lineage of Vajrayana Buddhism. She is the author of many books and articles.


What is nonduality? What is unity or oneness? Nonduality encourages diversity without blending religions into some lowest common denominator.

Acharya Rita’s intense personal experience at age 21 with a claim to exclusive religious truth, confirming her interest in studying religions and motivating her to proceed.

Appreciating different religious points of view in the same we way appreciate different forms of art, writing, or music.

Acharya Rita’s favorite student evaluation of her course on world religions and its significance.

Dropping fixation and ideology.

Limitations of language. Intuitive way of being in reality. As a Buddhist you give up the label Buddhist. Truth has no label. Religions live by relative truths and pointers often considered exclusive truths.

It’s unrealistic to imagine that in the future all people will belong to the same religion and if it did exist it would fragment into different sects and truths.

It would be sad if our religious understanding at age 75 was the same at age 14 as it would mean there would have been no maturing.

Religious practices: a person must find practices that lead to comfort with diversity, compassion, kindness, and lead to better functioning in the world. No single practice works for everyone.

Gazing into the comparative mirror is endlessly fascinating. It is a way to appreciate uniqueness of one’s religion as well as the diversity of religions. To know one religion is to know none.

Need for total separation of church and state. Combination of exclusive truth claims and the integration of that religion with political functions is extremely dangerous.

Nature is our model for how we can live sanely, the Dalai Lama says. Monocultures aren’t healthy.

The role of humor. Seeing the humor in your own seriousness.

Nothing good comes of arrogant claims to exclusive truth.

Opening and closing music by Prosad.

Religious Diversity, What’s the Problem? Buddhist Advice for Flourishing with Religious Diversity