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Nonduality Street Interview: Samuel Avery

Nondualty Street, the podcast arm of, presents an exclusive interview with Samuel Avery, author of Buddha and the Quantum: Hearing the Voice of Every Cell. Listen:

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Buddha and the Quantum
Hearing the Voice of Every Cell

Samuel Avery

Buddha and the Quantum is about the connection between meditation and physics. Many books show parallels between consciousness and physics; a few of these attempt to explain consciousness in terms of the physics of everyday experience.

This is the only book on the market that explains physics and the everyday world in terms of consciousness alone. Space and time – and the physical world they define – are a structure of consciousness. We can only understand the motion of the planets by putting the sun at their center; similarly, we can only understand modern physics if we put space and time within consciousness.

Buddha and the Quantum is also unique in that it shows why we think there is a world independent of consciousness. The concept of material substance is explained in terms of the same structure of consciousness that explains quantum mechanics and relativity theory.

Kalapa is a Buddhist term for a subtle sensation: a point of consciousness in the body. Barely noticeable most of the time, it fills awareness during meditation. It is the voice of a cell. This book shows that it is also the quantum. Quanta arranged in space-time – photons – are visual consciousness: the experience of cells in the retina. This explains why modern physics has had so much difficulty understanding light. Light is not in space; space is in light.

Buddha and the Quantum describes how experience in the physical world is built not from objective reality, but from experience within. Avery’s brilliant model of consciousness makes difficult and subtle ideas understandable, surprising you with the implications.

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Nonduality Street Interview: Connie Shaw (Sentient Publications)

Featured is an interview with Connie Shaw, founder and publisher of Sentient Publications.

We talk about her book (co-written with Ike Allen) The Tao of Walt Whitman, the poetry scene, insights and trends regarding the publishing business, how to get published, and what kind of books she’s always looking for. Connie talks about spiritual influences going back to childhood and through the Sixties.

To be honest, I edited this interview a little too tightly, that is to say, I didn’t leave enough room for a breath or two. That means the interview buzzes along, but a little too quickly. It’s still a fascinating and valuable interview. Just listen carefully. Thank you.

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Walt Whitman’s radiant poetry is a source of contemporary inspiration. His ecumenical wisdom, which includes both transcendentalism and realism, is encapsulated here in short verses for each day of the year. These, along with a daily action step, become a springboard for readers to transform themselves. The sublime poetry combined with exercises for self-reflection will make this unique pocket-sized daybook a constant companion for those seeking greater balance in their lives.

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Nonduality Street Interview with Dr. Robert Saltzman Part 2

Dr. Robert Saltzman New Interview

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Quotations from the interview:

“The current nonduality teaching seems to be the same old wine in different bottles, in some cases, baby bottles.”

“I was expected to get it and to make any and all efforts to accomplish that. Any laziness at all in the work of getting it was severely criticized and I might be told that if I really wasn’t interested then perhaps I should just leave and stop wasting his time. … He knew how to laugh with a wonderful freedom. … He knew how to suffer, too. He never tried to avoid it but just took it all in.” Saltzman speaking about his teacher.

“The most difficult misunderstanding about awakening is that awakening is some special state which is somehow attained through effort. That is totally wrong. The emptiness and silence of awareness already exists everywhere and nowhere. Awareness is beyond description and no person will ever attain it or own it.”

“I did not awaken so I am not awakened. Awakening happens suddenly, and since the imagined ‘myself’ no longer cares to stand in the way of that or to struggle against it, awakening continues to happen. … Awakening never ends.”

Photo: Dr. Robert Saltzman on the left, Buddhism teacher and psychiatrist Dr. Robert Hall on the right, teaching a couple weeks ago in Cabo San Lucas, La Paz, Baja California, Mexico.

Dr. Robert Saltzman re-addresses and expands upon questions asked in an earlier interview. I believe you will like his honesty and the detail with which he considers and addresses each question. This interview is recommended for students and teachers. These are the questions asked and addressed:

What is the role of a spiritual teacher?

What is spiritual awakening?

What is the heart of what you teach?

How do you communicate the heart of what you teach?

You’re a teacher in a world of nonduality which claims there is no student and no teacher. How do you respond to that?

Talk about practice, its value and its limitations.

Tell us about your active website and forum.

Tell us about your teacher, Walter Chappell.

How do the roles of psychotherapist and spiritual teacher play out in your life? How much have the roles merged and how much separation do you give them?

There are traditional psychotherapists and these days nondual psychotherapists. How does know which one to go to?

There is training available to psychotherapists in nondual sensitivity, how do you feel about that? If psychotherapists came to you for such training, how would you approach such a challenge?

What does it mean to awaken?

What are some of the myths about awakening?

Would you discern between the intense and true desire to awaken and the intense and fashionable desire to awaken?

You write, “My entire interest is focused upon whatever is arising now in this very moment.” How can it be otherwise or does it just appear otherwise?

Since you mention context, how important is it to put teaching and confession into context?

A student or seeker might sit with you perceiving you as enlightened and awakened while perceiving themself as ordinary, limited, or unenlightened. How do you perceive the coupling of yourself and the seeker or student?

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Nonduality Street featuring Bentinho Massaro

Bentinho Massaro

Quite literally everything we know just happens. We can of course pretend for a while to be the doer of all of the happenings in our personal life, but if you look closely to each moment anew, with an open mind, a fresh perception, then you will see how everything that happens, literally does just that: It happens.

Even when we believe ourselves to be the doer of something, even when we are in the very act of doing something using our thought/intention and body, if we become aware of it in that moment, we will see how even that which we call ‘doing’ is simply happening as an effortlessly appearing phenomenal process. There is no effort in any appearance of Life. Life does not know effort. Life simply happens naturally and effortlessly. Effort is that which we mentally ‘feel’ when we believe ourselves to be the doer of our lives.

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Nonduality Street Interview with Chani

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Wake up and try to work from the nondual state.

You have to go beyond knowledge. It’s more like living it.


Chani, Nova Scotia resident, gives her first interview:

Transcription of selected portions from the interview:

It’s so easy to live in the state of duality. We think we are a separate entity which doesn’t affect the other person. There is inter-coordination with every single thing and anything we do in the world, and any kind of decision we make is going to affect the other person.

We get confused and we start protecting our ideas, our beliefs. Anybody tells us any kind of story, we truly believe it and start defending it. We forget the basic truth. The basic truth is the fundamental knowledge of every religion, which does not mean reciting it as though some doctor gives us a prescription, we come home and start reciting it, reading it, protecting our books, worshipping it, bowing to it, and forget what’s written in it, what it really means, how to apply it in our life. … Nonduality is the essence of all religions.

I will not recommend anybody read one book and stick with it. That will put you in a box. Then you start defending that book and you get caught up in that. You have to be open to everything. Whatever shows you the way, you go for it.

Who is closest to us than ourselves? If we don’t have a knowledge of ourself, which we don’t, most of us, then how can we have knowledge of the other person and pass judgment on other people?

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