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Stanley Sobottka on Quantum Theory and Nonduality

Stanley Sobottka summarizes his view on quantum theory and nonduality.

Dear Friends,

As my tenure on the OASG [Open Awareness Study Group] comes to a close, I would like to summarize, and perhaps correct, what I have said about quantum theory and nonduality.

Physics in general, and quantum theory in particular, began as the study of objective reality, i.e., a reality that exists whether or not it is being observed. Classical physics had no problem with this approach. When classical physics proved inadequate to the task of explaining the results of certain experiments, quantum theory arose. It was spectacularly successful in explaining these results and many more, too. Then a few physicists began to ask, is this all that quantum theory means–the explanation of experimental results? Does it have any ontological value, i.e., can it tell us what objective reality _is_, not just what it _does_? This is what an _interpretation _of quantum theory is supposed to do, to describe what objective reality is. So a few physicists worked very hard to come up with an interpretation in terms of an objective reality….and failed. But the failure was that there were too many contenders, not too few, and there was no way to determine which one, if any, was correct. Furthermore, most of them pretend that the quantum wavefunction, which is a probability wave rather than a physical wave, is an objectively real object rather than being simply the mathematical formula that it is. However, rather than this being cause for despair, it actually can liberate us from the prison of objective reality. As long as we believe that objects are real, we will find it difficult to escape the belief that we are objects, and consequently to feel separate from all other objects. The failure of physicists to find an objective interpretation of quantum theory has the potential to liberate us from this fatal belief in separation.

So now that we don’t have to believe in the existence of separation, what is left? We are free to believe in the absence of separation. Better still, we don’t have to leave it to mere belief, we can _see _that there is no separation. This is where the teaching of nonduality comes in. There are many statements of nonduality, e.g., consciousness is all there is, love is all there is, there are not two, there is only oneness, etc. These are useful to begin with but the statements themselves don’t take us very far. To believe the statements is to make nonduality into a religion rather than accepting it as a teaching. Instead of belief, what is necessary is a clear, direct seeing of truth. The essence of direct seeing is to see that there is no separate me. If there is no separate me, there is no separation.

How do we see that there is no me? Simply speaking, we just look for the me. If we don’t find it, then we look for what-it-is that sees that there is no me. We might think that then is the true me. In that case, we just take another step back and look for what-it-is that sees that. We might think that we will have to keep on stepping back forever but that proves not to be the case. Once we see that there is no me, the next step, the step of seeing the witness of no-me, is likely to be the last one because the seeing of the witness likely dissolves the witness, and then there is only pure awareness.

What if we find a me in the first step? The process is the same as above. We step back and see what-it-is that sees the me. If we find the witness of the me, we take another step back and see what-it-is that sees the witness of the me. That seeing will likely dissolve the witness, leaving pure awareness.

Even if we can find no me and no witness of no-me, we might still feel that our awareness is confined to the skull. In that case, we look for what-it-is that sees that awareness is confined to the skull. If we see an awareness that is confined to the skull, we immediately see that what seems to be confined awareness cannot be true awareness. Again, as we step back and look for what sees this, we might find a witness of no-confined- awareness. Once again, we step back to see what-it-is that sees the witness. In so doing, the witness again dissolves into pure awareness.

Once we see that there is no me, no witness of no-me, and no-confinement, all separation dissolves. This seeing might have to be repeated many times for it to be a continuing awareness of no separation. It is very helpful to realize that both the apparent me and apparent confinement are just arisings. Since all arisings rapidly come and go, the me and confinement are never permanent, even for a short time. There are many times when there is no me and no confinement but we are not aware of it because we are not at the moment suffering from separation. Consequently, we can save our practice times for the times that we are suffering.


Awareness. Nonduality. Kiloby

Scott Kiloby writes on Open Awareness Study Group:

…this sentence is now being read. Now the previous sentence is gone and this sentence is now being read. Each of these sentences is presenting a point of view. If any of them are emphasized over the simple recognition of what is looking, any of them can become a subtle belief system. Our greatest viewpoints about awakening, as well as our scariest or worst, are all equal appearances of this space that is looking. We can attain a good conceptual understanding of non-duality. That can be helpful. And then we can see that it fades like your last breath just faded. In the death of that viewpoint, there is awareness, again, and again, and again. It’s this space that never leaves.

Scott Kiloby on Open Awareness Study Group

Scott Kiloby is starting his month of appearance on the Open Awareness Study Group, which you may join at


Signing for the Study Group is as close to a nonduality “must” as there is on the Internet.

Scott’s site is www.kiloby.com . He has also written a text at www.living-realization.blogspot.com.

He also has many videos on both youtube and on his site, as well as audio dialogues with other teachers and writers interested in non-duality. See the KiloLogues page of the kiloby.com site for those audios.